Rereading.

[rabidsamfan]

I've been rereading Fellowship of the Ring and now I need to get my hands on a map of the Shire. Why has Pippin spent most of his life in the Eastfarthing? I thought the Great Smials were south of Hobbiton.

And checking HoME I can sort of understand the real reason why Sam doesn't say much during that whole encounter with Tom Bombadil, but I'm starting to think about the "in-story" reasoning. Which is good, as thinking sometimes leads to writing.

Saw GoF for the third time yesterday (I had a day off for working on Saturday.) So I seem to be in rereading/repeating mode. Generally a sign that I'm in the dumps, unfortunately, and I do seem to be. But I'm trying to claw my way back up, starting to really look at my flist again.

A couple of people out there had started some Sam h/c for me a while back -- did I miss seeing it get posted?

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[surgicalsteel.livejournal.com]

Only reason I can figure would be if he spent a lot of time with his Brandybuck cousin - because the Great Smials/Tuckborough are in the Southfarthing, but Pippin does seem to know an awful lot about the Eastfarthing.

*shuffles feet*
I think I left Sam with a wound infection and wet to dry dressing changes a while back. I really need to get back to that, it's just that other plot bunnies were nibbling harder, and then there's work, and the job search, and studying for the orals... I know, excuses excuses. I will get back to it, though.

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

When it comes to not writing things, I'm in no position to throw stones. I was just afraid I'd missed something I should have seen.

[piratesmoon.livejournal.com]

Sometimes family members get "farmed out" to relatives in other areas for various reasons. I know people who spent every summer of their lives on the grandparents or aunts/uncles/cousins farm, knew it as well as home and still have very vivid memories of their time there. Besides the passage of time in a kid's perspective can get a little warped. Not to mention the exageration factor.

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

That might work. It's the narrator saying Pippin's spent most of his life there though.

[piratesmoon.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I just read through that part myself. It's easy enough as a reader to scoff it of as "author boo-boo", but if you're trying to write... Do you believe the narrator or your own logic and knowledge of Shire geography? How ominscient is the narrator? In this case I guess it would be Frodo seeing as how all this is from the Red Book of Westmarch...? Isn't it?

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

It also might be Bilbo, seeing as he took notes on their "adventures" so far when they were still in Rivendell the first time.

[lame-pegasus.livejournal.com]

I have posted everything I have written for you - and I have simply no time to write something for you (except that nasty, half-finished little Harry/Ginny-plotbunny that keeps nibblimg at my toeses and has nothing to do with Sam at all. But I can dedicate it to you, if you want...)

And I did some christmas shopping and will prepare some packages soon. I hope that will help your inspiration up, too.

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

Yes, but did I comment? I've been pretty lax about keeping up...

[lame-pegasus.livejournal.com]

You did. :-)

[elwenlj.livejournal.com]

Journeys of Frodo (An Atlas of JRR Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings by Barbara Strachey, has some very nice maps of the Shire.

ISBN 0 04 912011 5

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

I've got an atlas of Middle earth somewhere in the mess...

[mariole.livejournal.com]

My favorite map is the one I used for Devoted, see below. Sorry about the Sam h/c. I'm barely writing these days, except for work. And it's a major bummer, but what can I do? I'm still recovering.

I saw GoF twice. It's a lovely escape. It spurred me into buying the 1st 3 movies, and reading HBP. We all need our escapes. *hugs*


A/N: The map I've been using as my primary source for distances and roads is the Detailed Map of the Hobbit Postal District. Thanks to Tom Maringer (Will Whitfoot) for creating this lovely resource.

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

I do love that map...

[i-o-r-h-a-e-l.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the link! :)

[mariole.livejournal.com]

My pleasure! He did a great job. :)

[elanor1013.livejournal.com]

Maybe the repeating=in the dumps explains one reasons I saw ROTK 6 times in the theater while I was unemployed?

Does GOF hold up as fun on the second/third viewings? I think I might see it again too.

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

Yes, actually, and you can spend more time watching the people in the background too!

[dreamflower]

Yes, Pippin is *very* familiar with the Eastfarthing, isn't he?

The Great Smials/Tuckborough are in the West Farthing. Pippin says his father was a farmer at Whitwell, which is not shown on the map in LotR, but I've always imagined it as somewhere between Tuckborough and Pincup. JRRT gives no story-internal explanations for it that I have ever found, but I have always felt the three cousins spent a good deal of time visiting one another. I figure Pippin spend a few months every year in both Hobbiton and in Brandy Hall. More problematical is why Pippin is more familiar with the Marish than Frodo, who spent the first 21 years of his life in Buckland. The only thing I could figure was that he had avoided the whole area near Bamfurlong ever since the dog incident, and so had somewhat forgotten the geography.

I've been going in to that part of FotR myself, as I was writing my essay on the pre-Quest part of the four Traveller's friendships. It's fascinating to figure out the story-internal reasons for things that were externally plot driven.

I'm *always* in a rereading/repeating mode. With me, I think it just means I like ruts.

I'm pretty certain you read and commented on the Sam h/c I posted for you.

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

I can always reread, it's just that there are times when it's incredibly difficult to introduce anything new...

[auntiemeesh.livejournal.com]

Well, I don't have any Sam h/c, but I did post a Sam double drabble at hobbit_ficathon over the weekend. It was in response to a hobbit encountering something their terrified of.

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

Nicely done.

[surgicalsteel.livejournal.com]

Did you see this?

*snerk*

[rabidsamfan.livejournal.com]

Oooh, shiny!